Dogri to Welsh: ordinal meaning can affect a noun’s beginning rather than its ending
A changing Dogri first does not prescribe the Welsh shape
Sawhney’s Dogri morphology paper illustrates ordinal agreement through pɛl-i bərkʰɑ, first rain, alongside masculine singular and plural examples. The ordinal changes with the noun’s gender and number in the described pattern. These endings contribute grammar without changing the underlying place in a sequence.
The Welsh Academy Dictionary’s morphology chapter describes a different set of arrangements. Cyntaf, first, usually follows the noun, as in y peth cyntaf. The translated expression can therefore identify the same rank with a different order from a Dogri ordinal placed before its noun.
For a Dogri description of a first event or first item, establish what is ranked and what first means in the passage. Then use the Welsh construction appropriate to that noun phrase. Copying the source order would not necessarily preserve the usual Welsh arrangement, and reproducing an agreement-looking ending is not what makes the item first.
Second can keep the same ordinal while the following noun changes
The Welsh chapter states that nouns undergo soft mutation after ail, second. Its examples yr ail fab and yr ail ferch refer to the second son and second daughter. The ordinal itself remains ail in those examples, while the following nouns appear in mutated forms.
This contrasts with looking for the main grammatical information only at the end of a Dogri ordinal. In Welsh, a source ranking relationship may have a visible effect at the beginning of the translated noun. That initial change should not be mistaken for a separate vocabulary item or evidence that the translator selected another family relationship.
A Dogri family account may move from a first daughter to a second son. The rank and the relative’s identity both need to survive the translation. If the target noun’s initial letter changes under the ordinal construction, confirm its relationship to the base noun rather than assuming the person has changed. Conversely, an unchanged ordinal spelling does not mean that Welsh has omitted the numerical distinction.
Welsh grammatical gender must be assessed on the Welsh noun
The Academy chapter describes different mutation behavior after other ordinals, including feminine-noun patterns following forms such as trydedd and pedwaredd. Thus neither one universal noun form nor one universal ordinal arrangement accounts for every numbered Welsh expression.
Dogri and Welsh both require attention to grammatical classification, but the gender of a source noun cannot establish the classification of its translation. A Dogri feminine agreement ending gives information about the source phrase. It does not independently decide which Welsh noun to choose or which Welsh mutation pattern that noun enters.
For numbered chapters, relatives or repeated events, separate the rank from the noun phrase’s grammar. A source ordinal can remain semantically third or fourth while the Welsh wording changes according to its own lexical and grammatical requirements. This prevents a visual comparison of endings from overriding the intended sequence.
Read a translated ordinal phrase as a whole: what it identifies, where it places that referent in the sequence, and how Welsh organizes that expression. A faithful result may place first after the noun or change a noun’s initial consonant after second. Those are concrete reasons for the target phrase to look unlike its Dogri source while retaining the same ranking.
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